Cayce
"Know that whatever experience ye have in the material sojourns (is) for a purpose. Know that it is not by chance that ye are in a material or earthly consciousness in the present. For know that all activities of the mind, of the body, must be based upon SPIRITUAL things." Cayce (1754-1)
"Know that growth is within the individual. And as to whether that applied in the experience with others is chosen from the fields of creative and soul evolution, or for the satisfying or gratifying of the material manifestation, is the choice of the individual soul." [Cayce 2851-1]
Osho
THE SPIRIT GROWS IN FREEDOM AND ONLY IN FREEDOM
TWO CHILDREN ARE BORN - ONE IS GOOD, ONE IS BAD. Why do you call one good and the other bad? Is it really reality or just your interpretation?
WHICH CHILD IS GOOD, AND WHY? If the child is obedient, the child is good; if the child is disobedient, the child is bad. One who follows you is good, one who resists is bad. Whatsoever you say, the one accepts it. If you say: Sit silently - the one sits. But the other tries to disobey, tries to be rebellious - the other is bad. This is your interpretation. You are not saying anything about the children, you are saying something about your mind.
Why is the obedient one good? IN FACT, THE OBEDIENT ONES HAVE NEVER BEEN BRILLIANT, have never been very radiant, THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DULL. No obedient child has been a great scientist or a great religious man, or a great poet - no child who is obedient. Only disobedient ones have been great inventors, creators; only the rebellious one transcends the old and reaches to the new and into the unknown.
BUT FOR THE PARENTS' EGO THE OBEDIENT ONE FEELS GOOD, because it helps your Ego. When the child follows you, whatsoever you say, you feel good; when the child resists and denies you, you feel bad.
BUT A REALLY ALIVE CHILD WILL BE REBELLIOUS. Why should he follow you? Who are you? And why should he follow you? Just because you are a father? What have you done to be a father? You have been just a passage - and that too very unconscious.
YOUR SEX IS NOT A CONSCIOUS ACT, you have been pushed by unconscious forces to move into it. THE CHILD IS JUST AN ACCIDENT. You were never expecting, you were not consciously aware to whom you were giving an invitation to come.
The child has suddenly come as a stranger. YOU HAVE FATHERED IT, BUT YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER.
When I say you have fathered it, it is a biological thing. You were not needed, even a syringe can do that. BUT YOU ARE NOT A FATHER BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT CONSCIOUS. You have not given the invitation; you have not asked a particular Soul to enter the womb of your wife, your beloved. YOU HAVE NOT WORKED FOR IT.
And when a child is born... what have you been doing to it? When you say the child should follow you, ARE YOU CONFIDENT ENOUGH THAT YOU KNOW THE TRUTH, THAT HE SHOULD FOLLOW YOU? Are you confident enough, certain, that you have realized something that the child should follow?
YOU CAN FORCE YOURSELF ON THE CHILD - because the child is weak and you are strong. That is the only difference between you and your child. Otherwise, YOU ARE ALSO CHILDISH, IGNORANT; you have not grown, you are not mature. You will get angry just like the child, you will get jealous just like the child, and you will play with toys just like the child. Your toys may be different, a little bigger, that's all.
What is your life? Where you have reached? WHAT WISDOM HAVE YOU GAINED so that the child should follow you and should say yes to you whatsoever you demand?
A father will be conscious of it; HE WILL NOT FORCE ANYTHING ON THE CHILD. Rather, he will allow the child to be himself, he will help the child to be himself.
HE WILL GIVE FREEDOM TO THE CHILD, because if he has known anything, he must have known that ONLY THROUGH FREEDOM THE INNER GROWS. If he has experienced anything in his life, he knows well that experience needs freedom - the more freedom, the richer is your experience. The less freedom... there is no possibility to experience. If there is no freedom at all, then you can have borrowed experiences, imitations, shadows, but never the real thing, never the authentic.
FATHERING A CHILD WILL MEAN GIVING HIM MORE AND MORE FREEDOM, making him more and more independent, allowing him to move into the unknown, where you have never been. He should transcend you, he should go ahead of you, he should surpass all the boundaries that you have known. HE MUST BE HELPED, BUT NOT FORCED - because once you start forcing, you have killed; you are murdering the child.
THE SPIRIT NEEDS FREEDOM - it grows in freedom and only in freedom. If you are really a father, you will be happy if the child is rebellious - because no father would like to kill the spirit of the child.
BUT YOU ARE NOT FATHERS, you are ill with your own illnesses. When you force a child to follow you, you are simply saying that you would like to dominate someone. And you cannot do it in the world - but this small child, at least you can dominate him, possess him. YOU ARE BEING A POLITICIAN TO THE CHILD. You want to fulfill some unfulfilled desires through the child - domination, dictatorship.
AT LEAST YOU CAN BE A DICTATOR TO THE CHILD; he is so weak, he is so young and helpless. And he depends on you so much that you can force anything on him. BUT BY FORCING, YOU ARE KILLING HIM. You are not giving birth to him, you are destroying him.
And the child who follows will look good - because he is dead. And the child who is rebellious will look bad because he is alive.
BECAUSE WE HAVE MISSED LIFE OURSELVES, WE ARE AGAINST LIFE. Because we are already dead, dead before Death, we always want to kill others. Subtle are the ways. IN THE NAME OF LOVE, YOU CAN KILL. In the name of compassion, you can kill. In the name of service, you can kill. Beautiful names we find - DEEP DOWN, THE MURDERER IS HIDDEN.
OSHO
My Way: The Way of the White Clouds
Ch #14: Both are needed
am in Buddha Hall
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See Also
Awakening
18.15 - Body Mind and Spirit Relations - Cayce
Christ
Etheric Elements
God
Matter
7.8 - Matter and Spirit are Opposite Poles
Mind
Quimby on Spirit Communication
2.14 - Spirit as a Physics Attribute
2.2 - Spirit and Ether
Spirit
Spirit Communication
Spiritual defined
Spiritual Advise from Sai Baba
Spiritual Growth
Spiritualism
Superconscious