Josef Papp

Papp and Engine


Josef Papp
Born in Hungary in 1933.
Emigrated through Canada to U.S. in 1957.
Developed a plasma transition engine in 1960s.
Patented his “Method for Converting Atomic Energy into Utilizable Kinetic Energy” in 1972.
His engine operated on stable noble gases.
Contained some Thorium, Rubidium & Phosphorous, but insufficient for known nuclear power reactions.


The PAP Noble Gas Motor, developed by Joseph Papp, was an innovative engine concept that ran on a mixture of noble gases, including helium, neon, argon, krypton, and xenon. The idea behind this motor was that it could produce energy by exploiting the properties of these gases in a controlled plasma state, with claims that the motor could run efficiently and at very low cost, potentially offering an overunity system. Overunity refers to a system that produces more energy output than the energy input, a concept not recognized by mainstream physics.
Papp's motor gained significant attention when it was publicly demonstrated. However, the demonstration on November 18, 1968, in Gardena, California, ended in disaster. Reportedly, the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman, who had been invited to observe the motor, unplugged a key component, leading to an explosion that resulted in the deaths of several people. The incident caused Papp's motor to be dismissed as dangerous and unscientific, though some supporters of Papp suggest that the unplugging was a form of deliberate sabotage to protect established energy industries and interests. It's a matter of debate whether the explosion was truly accidental or if Feynman’s actions were, as you suggest, motivated by external pressures to suppress overunity technology.
In a similar vein, the Roberts Rotary Noble Gas Engine, developed by Dannel Roberts and built by Robert Rohner, represents another effort to harness noble gases in a plasma state for energy production. This engine gained attention for its simplicity and mechanical design, as demonstrated in videos showing its operation. However, just as this project appeared ready to move forward, it reportedly faced government intervention, with allegations that U.S. agencies (perhaps the FBI or similar entities) seized their funds and assets. The reasons for this intervention remain unclear but suggest a pattern of suppression for technologies that challenge conventional energy systems. The market for such a device remains vast, and many continue to hope that someone can bring a working, safe version to market. [anon]


JOSEPH PAPP: THE NOBLE GAS ENGINE — A FORGOTTEN INVENTOR, A DEADLY DEMONSTRATION, AND DECADES OF DOCUMENTED RESEARCH — The history of Joseph Papp is one of the most fascinating and controversial chapters in experimental energy research, involving an inventor who developed an unconventional reciprocating engine designed to operate with electrically stimulated gases inside sealed cylinders rather than conventional gasoline combustion. Papp, a Hungarian-born inventor, pursued technologies ranging from an experimental submarine to a noble gas engine that reportedly produced substantial mechanical horsepower without conventional fuel consumption or exhaust. His work attracted engineers, aerospace companies, investors, government attention, and eventually the involvement of Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman. On November 18, 1968, during an engine demonstration in Gardena, California, Feynman interfered with the electrical connection while questioning the operation of the machine. According to Feynman's own account, the engine continued running while disconnected, and he delayed returning the connection before eventually handing it back. The apparatus subsequently exploded, killing one person and injuring eight others. Litigation followed, and Feynman later acknowledged an out-of-court settlement involving Caltech. But the story did not end there. Papp continued developing his inventions, securing patents, entering commercial agreements, and participating in further experimental work. In 1975, General Dynamics/Convair documented an unusual demonstration involving a powerful pressure event that ruptured a steel drum without the visible flame or smoke normally associated with combustion. Later reports described dynamometer testing in 1983 that recorded approximately 776 foot-pounds of torque at 726 RPM, equivalent to roughly 107 mechanical horsepower. The historical record also includes original technical formulas, electrical arrangements, gas-conditioning methods, engineering descriptions, corporate agreements, licensing arrangements, FBI correspondence, court judgments, and later development involving the Rohner brothers. What makes this history particularly important is the amount of surviving documentation. These are not simply stories repeated over the internet; original newspapers, technical reports, patents, legal proceedings, and firsthand accounts preserve important parts of the development and controversy. For researchers interested in understanding the actual engineering, the commercial relationships, the experimental results, and the circumstances surrounding the invention, I have assembled the following chronological reference collection from the Joseph Papp dedication website. Each subject is followed by its full website address, where the historical document can be read or downloaded. HISTORICAL D

DOCUMENT ARCHIVE:
1. Ottawa Citizen Newspaper — August 1966, early reporting on Papp's experimental submarine and claimed transatlantic journey — https://josephpapp.com/ottawa-citizen-newspaper-aug-1966/
2. Montreal Gazette — August 17, 1966, newspaper investigation into the submarine story and the questions surrounding Papp's journey — https://josephpapp.com/montreal-gazette-aug-17-1966-papp.../
3. Environetics–Papp–Roser Background Data — July 23, 1968, an important early technical document covering gas mixtures, electrode arrangements, electrical excitation, cylinder preparation, materials, and proposed operating procedures — https://josephpapp.com/enviornetics-papp-roser.../
4. Amendment to Partnership — Papp–Roser Solid Fuel, August 31, 1968, signed agreement addressing ownership of Papp's earlier submarine-related solid-fuel invention — https://josephpapp.com/amendment-to-partnership-papp.../
5. Gardena Valley News — November 21, 1968, contemporary newspaper coverage of the fatal experimental engine explosion, eyewitness accounts, casualties, and aftermath — https://josephpapp.com/gardena-valley-news-nov-21-1968/
6. Feynman on Papp — Southern California Skeptics, Richard Feynman's own account of the demonstration, electrical disconnection, explosion, and subsequent legal settlement — https://josephpapp.com/feynman-on-papp-southern.../
7. Motor Boating Magazine — May 1971, period engineering coverage describing Papp's closed-cylinder engine, electrically stimulated gas expansion, and reported demonstrations without conventional exhaust — https://josephpapp.com/motor-boating-magazine-may-1971/
8. Papp v. Roser — Los Angeles Superior Court Judgment, July 1973, legal proceedings concerning corporate ownership, technical information, partnership obligations, and rights associated with the invention — https://josephpapp.com/papp-v-roser-superior-court-los.../
9. Joseph Papp FBI File — August 21, 1973, federal investigative records concerning Papp's reported disappearance, commercial interests, associates, and proposed engine demonstrations — https://josephpapp.com/joseph-papp-fbi-file-8-21-73/
10. Papp v. Roser — Superior Court, December 1973, Case No. 969-831, court documents and partnership records concerning the ownership and management of Environetics and its inventions — https://josephpapp.com/papp-v-roser-dec-2-1973-superior.../
11. Papp v. Roser — December 21, 1973, John Phillips Trustee, judicial documentation addressing continued corporate disagreements and management of invention-related interests — https://josephpapp.com/papp-v-roser-superior-court-of.../
12. General Dynamics/Convair — Papp Explosion Demonstration Test, April 19, 1975, aerospace-company technical documentation of an experimental pressure event that ruptured a steel drum, with observations concerning flame, smoke, combustion indicators, and instrumentation — https://josephpapp.com/general-dynamics-papp-explosion.../
13. Rear Admiral Ira McMillian to George Haley — January 14, 1978, correspondence discussing the perceived strategic importance of Papp's invention, concerns about foreign interests, and requests for government attention — https://josephpapp.com/rear-admiral-ira-mcmillian-to.../
14. License Agreement — Papp International and Rohner Engine, July 1982, commercial licensing documentation covering development rights, financial obligations, royalties, and continued engineering activity — https://josephpapp.com/license-agreement-papp.../
15. Sunday West — David Ansley, August 27, 1989, investigative newspaper reporting examining Papp's invention, witnesses, demonstrations, engineering claims, and the controversy surrounding his work — https://josephpapp.com/sunday-west-article-by-ansley-aug.../
16. Volusia County Clerk, Florida — Probate Case Records, historical estate documentation concerning Papp's remaining financial obligations and assets following his death — https://josephpapp.com/volusia-county-clerk-florida.../
17. U.S. Bankruptcy Court, District of Nebraska — Papp International v. Roser, September 1995, legal proceedings examining business interests and revisiting earlier disputes involving Papp-related companies — https://josephpapp.com/us-bankruptcy-court-district-of.../
18. Infinite Energy — Issue 51, 2003, extensive historical and technical research collection featuring interviews, original accounts, engineering discussions, patents, reported experimental results, and the continuation of Papp-related research — https://josephpapp.com/infinite-energy-issue-51-papp-engine/
19. 65-1 Exhibit C — Iowa Case 4:11-cv-239, 2011, legal exhibit concerning subsequent Rohner-associated engine development, financing, ownership, and patent interests — https://josephpapp.com/65-1-exhibit-c-iowa-4-11-cv-239/
20. Infinite Energy — September–October 2021, modern retrospective examining Papp's patent development, proposed operating mechanisms, submarine history, and possible scientific interpretations of the reported phenomena — https://josephpapp.com/infinite-energy-sept-oct-2021-papp/
ADDITIONAL TECHNICAL REFERENCE SUBJECTS: 21. The 1983 Engine Dynamometer Certification — historical reporting describing approximately 776 foot-pounds of torque at 726 RPM, corresponding to approximately 107 horsepower; discussed within the Infinite Energy Issue 51 research collection — https://josephpapp.com/infinite-energy-issue-51-papp-engine/
22. Joseph Papp Engine Patents and Technical Development — patent descriptions, electrical arrangements, sealed-cylinder concepts, and subsequent engineering interpretations discussed within the same historical research collection — https://josephpapp.com/infinite-energy-issue-51-papp-engine/ | COMPLETE JOSEPH PAPP DEDICATION WEBSITE: https://josephpapp.com/ | ADDITIONAL ARCHIVE LISTINGS: https://josephpapp.com/page/2/ | CONCLUSION: Joseph Papp's history should be examined through the machinery, engineering records, experimental observations, patents, witnesses, corporate involvement, and legal documents that survive today. Whether studying electrically stimulated gas expansion, pulsed energy systems, sealed-cylinder pressure generation, or the broader history of unconventional engine development, this archive provides a valuable opportunity to investigate the original work rather than rely on simplified retellings. The General Dynamics experiments, the reported dynamometer measurements, the surviving technical background documents, and the continued involvement of engineers after Papp's death make this an important historical research collection. Not every proposed physical explanation has been established by the surviving records, but the documented experiments, commercial activities, and technical investigations deserve careful examination in their own right. My purpose in sharing this material is to preserve the history, recognize the people involved, and make the original documents accessible so researchers can examine the evidence, understand the engineering, and develop their own informed conclusions. Sometimes the most important contribution we can make to the history of invention is to preserve the original research so it is not forgotten. Joseph Papp's story deserves to be studied, documented, and remembered.

Reference Material

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See Also


16.14 - Thermionic and gaseous state diodes
Atomic Dissociation
Browns Gas
Dispersion
Dissociation
Etheric Elements
Etheric Vapor
Gas-Plasma-Gas Transformation
Inert Gas
Josef Papp
Law of Atomic Dissociation
Law of Chemical Dissociation
Law of Oscillating Atoms
Law of Repulsion
Law of Transformation of Forces
Law of Variation of Atomic Oscillation by Electricity
Lingasarira
Molecular Dissociation
Noble gas
plasma
Robert Rohner
Quark-Gluon Plasma
transformation
Transmutation
Water Gas

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